Wednesday, September 20, 2006

The Narrative Essay Evolves

So today we did Peer Response Groups. This is the first time I have assigned this type of narrative essay and the first time I have used groups for peer response.
  • How did you think it went?
  • Were the responses helpful, vague, a little of both?
  • What did you learn about your essay?
  • Has this assignment gotten any better since your first FREAK OUT about its challenging nature and impossible task?

What do you need further instruction with in order to complete your next draft?

52 comments:

MaryaliceL1 said...

The Peer Response Groups were a dissapointment for me. I felt like my paper was on the right track, but i knew it needed quite a bit of feedback, and i was ready for that. Instead, i didn't get much of any feedback at all. My group is good, don't get me wrong, but i think that we are having trouble correcting others when we don't even know exactly how to correct our own. Maybe overtime, the corrects will get more helpful and a little less vague.

AllieB1 said...

I am glad that I have a first draft written because hopefully now the process will be a little easier. I didn't like reading my paper out loud because mine is not very good. However, I think that it helped getting feedback from other people. I need help with the dialogue in my story. I am not sure how to work that in.

RitaCecilW3 said...

I really am glad to at least have the main ideas of my narrative written down. Mine as of now, is really choppy and sounds more like a play than a narrative, as Frank pointed out.

Personally, I am not a big fan of peer editing. I may be alone in this, but I have a hard time reading my unfinished work and critiquing someone's work aloud to people I may not be comfortable with. I think it is just an uncomfortable situation

Some of the critiques were good, I felt, but there was still vagueness. I agree with maryalice... It is hard to really give good direction to someone else's paper when there is a bit of vagueness in our own minds about this paper.

davids3 said...

I felt that the peer responces were a great idea, although some partners were more helpul than others. If a certain memeber in your group didnt do his work than his time and yours was kind of wasted. I liked being able to hear what people thought about my paper and where I was going with it. I believe that having multiple people review your paper gives you a better insight to the corrections that you need to make. I am glad the first draft is completed because now I am more relieved.

GingerC1 said...

I felt that we did not get to talk enough about our stories to the other people in our group. It was like oh you miss spelled that and you need a comma there. I wanted them to tell me more about my story and give better suggestions. I felt like we needed more time. Maybe if we have time tomorrow we can discuss eachother's papers. This paper has gotten easier as we have been able to work on it at night. I would feel a lot better if you would look over our papers and tell us suggestions.

chriso5 said...

I think that todays peer editing was not a great success. I think everybody kind of held back, and didn't want to criticize anybody else's papers too harshly. I think that peer editing probably works a little better when you can choose who you want to peer edit. This way you can choose a friend who might feel a little more comforatable commenting on your paper rather than somebody they don't know quite as well.

laceys7 said...

I actually thought that the peer reviews were very helpful. It really helps to see a different point of view. We are always writing in our own style, so it's nice to see how others react to that style. It is harder to grade your own paper since you wrote it with a style that you are familiar, but when someone else gives feedback, it is coming from a different perspective than the one in which you write. When you can get a group that can honestly critique your paper without holding back, it opens up the writer to new perspectives.
After forcing myself to sit and write the paper, I found myself wanting to write on a completely different track than the one I started pre-write in class. However I found that it wasn't really all that bad once I started going.

AllenK5 said...

I definitely am glad to have that thing kind of shelled out on paper. I had been pretty much dreading writing that thing. Peer Response Groups were average. I kind of think that everyone is a little confused about maybe what a good narrative of this nature would look like, so it's hard to correct others'. Responses were quite vague and didn't help too much; however, it was nice to get to compare mine to someone else's just to see what some would look like.

JodiS24 said...

I thought the Peer Response Groups were extremely effective. It was really cool getting to listen to how completely different my story is from the other stories in my group. The response groups were also efficient because it is really easy to follow narrative essays. I think doing this with other types of essays would be really difficult and probably a lot more boring. Once I began writing the narrative essay, it really came easily to me, and I actually enjoyed writing it. Basically, narrative essays are just easier to work with in my opinion. Personally, I now know I need to research more about the behavioral disorder I am using for my main character.

FrankB3 said...

I think it went well. The examples you gave of the editing comments helped. My group was very specific when we were editing each others paper. It was very efficient and let everyone know exactly where work was needed. Im glad my group was so honest and unafraid. I learned that my essay is WEAK! Its okay though. I have plenty of time to lengthen and elaborate. This assignment seem to only have gotten more difficult as I make my paper better.

EleanorM1 said...

After I got over the initial embarassment of having to read my story aloud, I really liked the peer response groups. I think it helped because it showed me what I needed to work on in my paper. The narrative is not as hard as I expected it to be, but I do feel like my story is a little cliche...but I'm working on it!

BrookingP5 said...

The paper is getting easier now that I finally just wrote out the story. I think we hvae passed over the hardest part after completing the first draft. I still am considered though as to whether or not my paper is on the right track. I think we benfitted from the peer groups, but I think it is more helpful when we just trade papers with one other person and read their's carefully and edit that way.

adelleb3 said...

The peer response groups were a little of everything. I was getting some good quality feedback but i also was getting very vague answers. It is hard to correct peoples narative essays when you dont know exactly how to write one yourself. I think that overtime we will adapt the whole peer review assignment, but until then I think it might be a little difficult to get good enough feedback to work with. I think a better plan is to be able to swich with one other person. I also really liked the idea of reading it outloud it helped alot. Overall I have mixed feelings about the whole assignment.

HunterP3 said...

I think it was more helpful to hear other people's stories more than it was having them correct your own. Some of the advice can be helpful in that, maybe the reader won't understand what's going on as much as the writer might, seeing as they wrote it themselves. Personally, I think it would be a cool thing to have all the papers linked on the website so that everyone can read them, and post comments there, and most likely the comments would be a little more sincere and thoughtful compared to saying things right to the person's face in class.

MaryEvelynP3 said...

The peer response groups were mildly helpful. I think i would have rather met with you (Mrs. C.) because I am feeling sort of lost on this assignment. I did, however, realize that the most important element of this paper is definitely descriptive details and vivid language. I need a lot more of it in my paper.

MillerL.3 said...

I thought it was kind of stupid. It took a lot of time and the results from myself and my partners were not helpful. Though when you read it out loud you realize yourself the mistakes it has. Also the partners did help with the grammatical errors. Overall i dont think it helped very much.

DavidW3 said...

The Peer Response Groups were beneficial to me. I think it went well. The responses were both vague and helpful depending on who critiqued my essay. It has gotten better since the first freak out because I found it easy to write about. I am glad that we were able to do the Peer Response Group because it allowed me to find errors on my essay, so that I can improve on it.

jessanneh3 said...

I was really impressed by my peer group's papers. They were both so good. I was very happy with the responce I got from my paper because I did not feel that it was very good at all. But, others did so that made me happy. I got positive and negative feedback about my paper that will definitely help me with my second draft!

Michaelc3 said...

I really liked the peer response groups. I got a lot of feeback from my group members. I also liked listening to their stories, and giving them suggestions as to how to improve on their stories. It was interesting to see what they wrote about. I think that the suggestions my group gave me will make my paper much better.

GuerryF1 said...

The groups were kind of weird. I am just not of fan of reading my things to people. But if we do it again i think it will be easier. I did get a lot of feedback on my essay that was really helpful.

carolw7 said...

I think the Peer Response Groups were kind of dissapointing. I have never been a fan of peer editing and this didn't change my mind. Some people's papers had very weak starts or missed the concept entirely. While others had a clear idea and had obviously put time into their papers. Peer editing is frustrating because it forces these people together to the effect that no one really accomplishes much. I think this could have been a more useful excercise, at least for some, if we had been aloud to pick our own groups. This also would have eliminated some of the unease about criticizing other people's papers, because we would know our group mates better and would be more comfortable.

RyanL5 said...

The Peer Response is not a good idea. Even if you have a good group its weird correcting peers. Also the peers dont always do the right correcting somone elses paper so it could end up being worse then it was at the begining. I would much rather the teacher make comments than the peers and then maybe do the peer editing. To me that might work a little better.

maryrobm1 said...

The Peer Response Groups were helpful for me. I learned how to give quality suggestions. I think the groups were helpful by showing us how to respond well. I did not like reading the papers out loud though. If we had a copy of everybody's paper, why didn't we just read them to ourselves?

hali7 said...

I feel like this little escapade of yours to try something new will really work out. I really enjoyed hearing how other people's papers were. It made me feel really good about my paper. The responses from my peers will be put to use because they were very helpful to me. I learned that I have to put more dialogue in my paper along with more discriptive words. Yes, this assignment has gotten alot better since you gave us the extention it makes me feel like i have time to just chill and work on my paper. The only instruction I would like to hear from you is how many drafts should we make and should this be a certain length because i feel that a narative must be long to be a complete story. I may be wrong so please tell me.

wesn7 said...

I think that the peer editing went great. The responses that my group gave me really helped me and made see little errors that i would have never found without their suggestions. They helped me find the many little gramatical errors that i skipped over. I also need to just find someone to help me with the whole content of my paper and the flow of my paragraphs.

MatthewH7 said...

The Peer Response groups were good. I needed a lot of revision and thankfully chuck was in my group to get me on the right track. They let me know where i needed more description of the characters. I also needed a better conclusion. The best of my paper was the dialogue, and it was good to know that i got something right.

GrantM3 said...

I think the peer response groups were a success. Although I didn’t like having to read my own paper out loud. The other group members were able to give me helpful information to make my paper better. They also were able to show me some grammatical errors and things I could have done better. Over all I think that the groups worked.

Ianr3 said...

I think that the peer response on the narrative essay was a good idea. I feel like I really got a good glimpse into what route other people were taking with it so it made ideas for how to improve mine. I learned that mine was quite long compared to others, but I also did a lot of details and pretty unrough rough draft. It has gotten better, but that is also because I have sat for endless time just thinking of ways to get the story progressing. I feel like in order to complete my next draft I need to understand how detailed and to what exent you want the story to be close to final to understand how i should be correcting it.

BeckyR5 said...

I really enjoyed he peer response groups. I had a really great group. They gave me great feed back. They also made me realize my paper was much better than I thought. Overall I believe this was very effective.

willst5 said...

* How did you think it went?
* Were the responses helpful, vague, a little of both?
* What did you learn about your essay?
* Has this assignment gotten any better since your first FREAK OUT about its challenging nature and impossible task?

I think it went fairly well i was lucky enoughh to get in a good group that was able to help me right my paper.

Some responses were vague but you sometimes expect that, but for the most part they were right on with what I needed for my paper.

That i stil have work to do and I don't need to get discouraged because my peers are having the same problem that I am with my paper.

A little easeir now that I have a paper I have written and that I can rely on now.

Talc0s S. said...

I have to agree with Mary Alice on this one. The problem with the Peer Response Groups is that we had difficulty in identifying what we could improve on with eachother's essays. We gathered, we read, we applauded, and had very little to say.
I'm sure this will become less of a problem given time, and more practice.

MeredithA3 said...

I thought the Peer Response Groups were somewhat helpful. It was interesting to hear the opinions of the people in my group. Most of their responses were extremely vague, but it did help. The good news is that I now know that I can write a better paper. Also, I'm not as freaked out about how to make this paper becuase I do not have that many corrections to make. Overall, the Peer Groups helped, but only a little bit.

DJ B 5th said...

Sense the first draft is done, i think the rest of the paper will be alot easer to do. i think the first draft will end up being the hardest part of the paper. I liked the peer response groups, i think they will help a little, but it is hard to read your paper to other students, and it is hard to help other people with thier paper. i liked the Peer Respones groups, but i would rather have the teacher look over my paper.

DJ B 5th said...

Sense the first draft is done, i think the rest of the paper will be alot easer to do. i think the first draft will end up being the hardest part of the paper. I liked the peer response groups, i think they will help a little, but it is hard to read your paper to other students, and it is hard to help other people with thier paper. i liked the Peer Respones groups, but i would rather have the teacher look over my paper.

TylerMo1 said...

The Peer Response Groups were a good idea. It was helpful to read other people's papers and see how they were doing. Also it was nice having multiple people give advice on what to do with my paper. I am definitely feeling better about this paper but still not great. I would feel better if you would read our papers and give us advice.

gordonw7 said...

I thought the peer response groups were pretty helpful. I think that my group did a pretty good job of correcting each others essays but we havent finished yet, we still have one more essay to look at. So if we can just spend Friday doing that we should be done. My essay changed a lot from the first draft, so I guess the groups were a good idea.

SumerlinB7 said...

Writing this narrative was not nearly has hard as I thought it was going to be. Once I started writing it, I didnt have to think much. The peer editing groups were pretty helpful, but I think it may have been more beneficial to just split up into pairs and have each person read the other's essay by themselves. I think that would have kept us more focused on what needed to be corrected.

eliseh1 said...

I think that the peer-response groups could have been helpful. My group was really good, but they didn't tell me anything that I didnt already know that I needed to correct. No one really helped with grammar situations or anything. It was more like, "Aww, your story was good, but you need more dialogue." And that is true, but that was the extent of the peer editing. I think that it would be just as helpful to have one individual read your paper and make corrections.

eds3 said...

I liked the idea of the peer groups although vague it was helpful. Not knowing excatly what I was supposed to do made it difficult to asses someone elses paper but any suggestion can spark an idea. The feedback I got was about the same as what I knew I still had left to correct, but over all I think it was beneficial.

JohnMM1 said...

I thought the peer review groups were fun. The only problem I had was that some members of my group had not finished their essay which made the gropu pretty much pointless. From what I saw from other groups it seemed that people where giving honest, open comments about the story. To me, some of the questions did not seem usible, but that might change when I start reviewing my essay using student comments.

StClairD1 said...

I thought the peer editing in groups were helpful in some ways and not so helpful in other ways. It helped me to be able to read it aloud because i heard a lot of mistakes as I read. But, i wish i could have been in a group with people i knew better. I think i might have been more comfortable with reading mine. I wouldn't have been so embarassed.

Baileym1 said...

The peer response groups helped me. I was glad to see that I wasnt the only one struggling with this assignment. I was also glad that my peers said my narrative was on the right track. They also gave me very helpful points that i will use for the next draft. I am still confused with the dialouge part though.

MatthewM1 said...

I have to admit it was pretty miserable. i wrote my paper very late the night before i knew it wasn't my best effort, and that i had several errors. However my peer response groop had nothing but good things to say, and only found one error and it was a typo. As i wen't back through my paper that night i found many more problems and was actually laughing at the fact that they missed some mispelled words and such. It was pretty wothless in my oppinion.

Jason R. 1 said...

I think that the revision groups didn't work as well as I was thinking. I enjoyed getting feedback from my group, but I thought the reviews were broad and not very specific. Maybe after a few more times of revisions we will be better at our responses. All in all, the first draft made me feel better as an individual about my paper.

JimW3 said...

I think that peer response groups help me a lot. I think that it is helpful to have those people there that can read your story and let you know strong and weak points. I like being able to have someone else's opinion about the way I have written my story. Writing this story has also gotten a lot easier now that we have gotten into it. I think that my paper is on track now.

JayF3 said...

I think the peer response groups were a good idea in theory, but not really effective in reality. Everyone's paper was rough, and we were just getting started. Its hard for other people to give you ideas on your paper if they don't know where the story is going. Peer review is great if people say what they think, but most people didn't want to hurt anyone else's feelings. One thing we learned was that we all need to work on our dialogue. I think our peer editing skills will get better with time.

nickr3 said...

The peer review went fine. The feedback I got was good but the comments werent too helpful because I already had a good idea of what I needed to fix about my paper. I learned that my paper is "intense". The paper got easier once I actually started typing. I just made things up as a went.

CamilleCo5 said...

The peer response groups were a little bit helpful, but I think people were afraid to be critical or give suggestions on how to improve it. I did get some helpful feedback, but a lot of it was vague and not useful at all. It was neat to hear other people's stories and how different they were from the others. Maybe the more we do peer response groups, the better we'll get.

merrittb5 said...

the groups went pretty good we didn't talk much about how to correct the papers at first, but once we read through the questions you gave us we really started helping each other out. and what my groupmates wrote down was very helpful when i was revising my draft and really helped me realize who my audience was and how the audience would react to my story.

SpencerS5 said...

Ya it was helpful definately. I had a good time reading everyone else's stories and responding to the questions. Everyone's responses seemed to be helpful and it was cool seeing what they had to say about the papers.

jonathang7 said...

i felt like my paper was really good and creative, but it ended up not being a big hit with the peer review group. i wrote my paper on a videogame character, that i took the storyline and changed it to make it about a man with a disibility. i actually wrote the paper in third person, but i will change it to first person.

RyanH5 said...

I think the peer editing groups were a good idea, but I'm not sure they were much of a success. The responses were either vague or sometimes helpful. I learned what I have to do to take it to the next drafting step. It would help us more when we do the comment thing on our papers, and we could get a few suggestions. Maybe this won't be that hard after all.