Monday, March 13, 2006

Facebook made public

Read the following regarding the arsonists accused of burning the churches.
The Crimson and White Online reported:

Cloyd's father, Michael, said in the affidavit that Russell Cloyd admitted knowing who committed the arsons and Cloyd was with the arsonists when they set the fires.

A message posted on Jan. 3 by Cloyd to Moseley on Facebook.com said that it was time to "reconvene the season of evil."

Near the end of the message there is a pledge that asks, among other things, "May our girlfriends be concerned about our safety, may our parents be clueless, [and] may our beers be frosty."

Students charged with conspiracy, arson in nine fires
By Marlin CaddellMetro/State Editor
March 09, 2006


Give your opinion about the Facebook entry. Do you think this implicates them in the crime? Does it show that it was premeditated? What does this say about their attitudes toward the crime?

Is it right for businesses, government, or agencies to access your otherwise private Facebook account?

26 comments:

sallyc1 said...

yes, i think this implicates that the crimes were premeditated and meant to be cruel. maybe with the first fire, the students did not have evil thoughts on their mind, but as they kept doing it, it shows they really are evil. i think that federal officials should have access to things like facebook because in this case it helps determine the severity of the crime. if their power to access sites like this helps them solve crimes and maintain public safety, then they deserve the privelages.

JoanneL1 said...

I think that the facbook posts definitely prove that the crimes were premeditated. I also think that it's not wrong for facebook accounts to be made public. They already are public because they are on the internet for anyone to look at. Those boys should have been smarter not to posts things like that on facebook and smarter not to do such a retarded thing.

Mitchell M 6 said...

These Facebook messages show that the 3 students are guilty. It shows they planned their acts and hopefully all of this evidence will assist in punishing them to the fullest extent of the law. The government has the right to access these private accounts in matters such as this one because it can greatly help in an investigation.

carletonw1 said...

I think it that facebook entries goes right along with telephones...i think it is absolutely fine for gov't to listen in as long as they have reason to. I do think that the entrie showed that it was premeditated. I think that they saw it as some kind of prank rather than a rebellion towards society. At the end of the day i think that they were just plain stupid.

Rachaelw5 said...

Yes, the entries show that the crimes were premeditated. It was incredibly stupid of the guys to post something like that on their facebook. It shows that they did not feel like the crime was wrong and that they were looking forward to doing it again. I think when there is reason, businesses, goverment, or agencies definitely have to right to look at people's facebooks. It is a good way for frats and sororities to see what kind of person someone interested in them is. In the business world, however, this might not work as well because most older people do not have facebook.

Addie said...

I definitely think that they knew what they were doing the whole time and that the government had a right to get information off of facebook. If there happens to be an arguement in court saying that it was wrong then I think that if they didn't want for anyone to have seen it they shouldn't have put it on there in the first place.

DorieF5 said...

I think that these entries show that the boys are guilty and that they entended to burn the churches down. I also don't think that they have thought much about it afterwards and they don't really regret it, and that kind of bothers me. They have ruined people's homes basically and they don't even care. I do think that the government should have access to facebook because otherwise they would have no evidence against them. I just have no idea what was going through their minds and I hope they think long and hard about what they did. Okay well I missed you today B-cal and I'll see you tomorrow!

maggieb6 said...

yeah, those guys are idiots. i really can't figure out why they would do what they did, but i'm glad the government is able to access things like facebook to help with the case. the governments able to get warrents to search private homes, why shouldn't they be able to search public sites, especially if it helps to solve a crime.

walkerd3 said...

I think that the facebook posts could or could not be true. Like for instance I could leave a post on someone's facebook as a complete joke that was just between me and the other person but someone who did not get the joke will think of it as something else. I pray that these boys will get what they deserve if they did do it. No one should ever burn down a church or house of worship thats just SICK! On the FBI thing I think they have every right to go through stuff online becasue you as a person has the choice to post it for ANYONE to see it whether personal or not. If its personal be smart and dont post it and the FBI cant see it.

KatherineK5 said...

The way the boys talked about their crimes on facebook makes it seem like they really thought all of this was a joke. Also, I think if you want to keep something private, you should not put it on an Internet site like facebook. The whole point of facebook is to put things about yourself that other people can see. Nothing on the internet is private. Of course the government (or anyone for that matter) has a right to see it.

KatieM1 said...

Those crimes were def. planned!!! its as if their bragging about what their about to do! On the government thing - the internet is open to the public, so its at your own risk that you put yourself on it. So the government I guess is at will to look at whatever is on there.

carolineb1 said...

I think this defiantly shows that the crimes were somewhat premeditated. On the issue of facebook, I think that when you make and account like that you know that it is going to bout there for basically anyone to see. Even if you aren’t friends with the person through facebook you can find someone who is. Personally I think that the police have every right to use facebook as a resource for information and evidence. But from a legal standpoint I don’t know it that would be violating any type of personal privacy rights. All in all though I think everyone should be careful about what they put on facebook because the reality is more and more people are looking at these accounts to get information for jobs, colleges etc and if there is information that you don’t want your future boss to see than you should probably not put it on there.

lillyb5 said...

yes, I think this implicates that the crimes were premeditated. I dont think that it is wrong for facebook to be made public. They were stupid to think that it would remain private. If they were that dumb, they should be seriously punished.

Leeb3 said...

It is not right for the government and other authorities to have a right to access one's private facebook information without a search warrant. Therefore when they accessed this information illegally, it should be thrown out and not usable in a federal court. This makes no evidence of pre-meditation.

Johnf5 said...

I think that it shows that it could have been premeditated but it is still inconclusive as to what it is talking about. And I think that business's should be able to access it because it is the students who agree to have their information put on the internet, which is public.

Johnf5 said...

I think that it shows that it could have been premeditated but it is still inconclusive as to what it is talking about. And I think that business's should be able to access it because it is the students who agree to have their information put on the internet, which is public.

stus6 said...

These facebook messages show that the students are guilty. They show they planned their acts and hopefully all of this evidence be used in court. The government has the right to access these messages and anyone who is stupid enough to write about it on facebook should be punished.

willh6 said...

I think that the posts on facebook definityly prove that the crimes were premeditated. Those guys are idots to have posted stuff like that on facebook.

Rebeccal5 said...

unfortunately, yes to all of the above. I think it shows a premeditated process for a crime. I think they need a little more evidence or a confession to be sure, but it doesnt look good for those boys. I think it is legal for the government to look at facebook. It is just like you making a tv commercial or radio announcement. I guess they would have to prove that you really did it, or have an alibi (sp?). I dont know what to think about this case. I hope they tell everyone what in the world they were thinking!

christ1 said...

I'm going to start by saying that Facebook is pretty ridiculous; I am not really a fan. But that is beside the point. I think that the message shows the students' guilt and it should be enough to convict them.

carolinec1 said...

i think that the government does have the right to read facebook walls because they are open to everyone. i think that it shows that the crimes were in fact premeditated, but i think it also shows that they just did it for fun. I guess this means that they are actually evil and stupid for posting that for everyone to see.

BrandonW1 said...

Usually, I would be against authority being able to view facebook and use it against someone for punitive reasons. However, in this circumstance, I believe that the investigators in the case have all the right in the world to use that facebook quote to prove that it was premeditated because it blatantly proves it.

andrewp1 said...

Yes, it definitely shows that these guys had premeditated these crimes, and that they truly enjoyed it. I think that the government should be able to intervine and see these posts if safety comes into the scene.

VirginiaB5 said...

Yes, i do think that the facebook messages have a lot to do with the case. I think that they are stupid and should have gotten caught. That is just stupid to put it on Facebook.

AbbyW5 said...

I think that these facebook posts tell a lot about the boys and the crime, especially that it was premeditated. Facebook can get people in trouble or it can help people because any job employer, university, etc. can view facebook. I think the government has a reason to view peoples facebook especially if it will help in a situation like this.

jordanl5 said...

I dont think that the person who wrote that message felt to guilty about burning down a church. If he really meant what he wrote, he deserves to be punished becuase it seems he feels no remorse for his actions. How could you joke about your beers being frosty after you have burnt down a house of God. Quite unbelievable if he really was a christian, no?